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Thursday, October 10, 2013 Jennifer Nutt

Theme: "Green Bay Packers!" Five shades of GREEN are "packed" into this puzzle...all mixed up into a nice salad!


17-Across. *Slow-to-develop sort : LATE BLOOMER. Teal. Here is the green winged teal duck:



23-Across. *Precursor to adoption, often : FOSTER CARE. Forest.  This is what I imagine:


52-Across. *Bargain hunter's destination : FLEA MARKET. Leaf. To me, little difference from "FOREST." But still, a distinct shade of green.


10-Down. *21st birthday, e.g. : MILE STONE. Lime.



31-Down. *Old TV title shown in a heart : I LOVE LUCY. Olive. The one outlier - it uses two words for the anagram.  ...Martinis, anyone?



And the revealer (I sorely needed it to suss the theme!):

62-Across. Salad choice, and a literal description of the starts of the answers to starred
 clues : MIXED GREENS.

Anagrams of various shades of green in a nicely executed theme.  It may be a bit over the top, since all the anagrams were of different words. Usually, anagram puzzles make different words from the same letters.  So that is why this puzzle was relegated to a Thursday level, even though the fill (and my solving time of 8 minutes +/-) dictated a Tuesday-Wednesday level.

Marti here, to show the way through the woods on this Thursday.


Across:

1. Kindle add-ons : APPS.

5. Fight : CLASH.

10. Rainy day consequence : MUD.

13. Wool source : LLAMA. Anyone want "sheep" here? Anyone?

15. Personal strength : FORTE.

16. George's songwriting partner : IRA. Gershwins.

19. Cover : LID.

20. Work in which Iago is a baritone : OTELLO.

21. Spot for a Hindu's tilak : FOREHEAD. No idea what a "tilak" was, but guessed it was one of these marks:

25. Like an unswept fireplace : ASHY. By November, ours becomes quite "ASHY."

26. "Ring Cycle" goddess : ERDA. Goddess of earth, from Wagner's "Ring Cycle" ("Der Ring des Neibelungen")

27. Skip over : OMIT.

29. Hubbub : STIR.

32. Gloss targets : LIPS.

35. Maui howdy : ALOHA. Nice rhyme. I wonder if OwenKL will honor us with a limerick including this one?

38. Amigo : PAL.

39. Pound spenders : SYRIANS. Had to perp and WAG this one (check the crosses and do a "wild a**ed" guess.)

41. Postal motto word : NOR. "Neither snow NOR rain NOR gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds." Minor nit: the US Post Office does not have an official motto. It is simply the inscription on the James Farley Post Office in NYC.

42. Coffee shop feature : AROMA.

44. Half a sci-fi sign-off : NANU. From "Mork and Mindy." Soooo late seventies!

45. Yard parts : FEET. Three, exactly...

46. Star in Lyra : VEGA. Another WAG that proved to be right.


48. Sphere opening : ATMO. ATMOsphere. If you have seen "Gravity," what did you think?

50. Gray __ : AREA.

58. All one can stomach : BELLYFUL.

60. Northwest college town where "Animal House" was filmed : EUGENE.

61. Big bird : EMU.

64. Twitch : TIC.

65. Witch : CRONE.

66. Where many tennis winners are hit : AT NET. No idea. All perps. (C.C.:  "Winners here refers to the "winning shots", correct?)


67. Farm structure : STY.

68. Father of Moses : AMRAM. I had to dig deep in the recesses for this one!

69. Word after high or open : SEAS.


Down:

1. "__ the Lights": Kanye West song : ALL OF. Nice intro...

2. First philosopher to mention Atlantis : PLATO.

3. Gourmet spreads : PATES.

4. Ore refinery : SMELTER.

5. Fiscal VIP : CFO. Chief Financial Officer.

6. Bubble bath accessory : LOOFA. I wanted the "loofah" spelling here...

7. Hard wear? : ARMOR. Cute misdirection.

8. Music provider : STEREO.

9. On hand : HERE.

11. Hater of David, in Dickens : URIAH. From "David Copperfield."

12. Pops : DADDY. Wanted "Daddy-o." Wouldn't fit.

14. More qualified : ABLER.

18. Imperious : LORDLY.

22. Flag down : HAIL.

24. __ terrier: Highlands hunter : CAIRN. Shweeet!



28. More, in Madrid : MAS.

29. Relaxing getaway : SPA.

30. La Brea goo : TAR.

33. Newscaster Lindström : PIA. No clue. Three perps nailed it...

34. Capital SSW of Riyadh : SANA'A. This was ingrained from previous x-word puzzles.

36. Weeder's tool : HOE.

37. Busts, perhaps : ART.

39. Lose tensile strength : SAG. Various parts of my body are losing tensile strength...

40. Pumpkin pie spice : NUTMEG. Thanksgiving is coming up.

43. __ ticket : MEAL.

45. Evolves beyond forgiveness : FORGETS. "Forgive, and forget..."

47. Maintain as true : AFFIRM. Avow or Aver were both too short.

49. Tierney of "ER" : MAURA. Four perps and a WAG for the last "A" nailed it.

50. Drives the getaway car for : ABETS.

51. Mail payment : REMIT.

53. Vegas hotel with a Sphinx re-creation : LUXOR.

54. Colleague of Ruth and Sonia : ELENA. Ending in "A" or "E"??? WAG got it.

55. New Hampshire city : KEENE. My "surrogate daughter" (a Katrina evacuee) lives in Keene, and just had a baby. So I nailed this one.

56. Nine: Pref. : ENNEA.

57. Lab work : TESTS.

59. Village People classic : YMCA.

63. Rep.'s rival : DEM.

That's all for this week. See you next time, same day, same blog...
Marti


Note from C.C.:

Please click here to solve a special tribune puzzle George Barany and Friends made to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the birth of a famous opera composer who frequents our crosswords. I hope you bookmark his website as a Favorite. He regularly publishes new puzzles there.


66 comments:

  1. MIXED GREENS

    The car had a lot of appeal,
    The terms were a very nice deal.
    But it was bereft
    Of prevention from theft,
    Except for the paint; who'd steal TEAL?

    Robin Hood's on the road right before us.
    He is stealing the horses from Horace.
    If he tried to resist
    He'd sorely be missed,
    But not missed by the bows in the FOREST.

    Reading, it is my belief
    Could give many problems relief.
    If they spent time with books,
    Then maybe some crooks
    Would resolve to turn over a LEAF.

    The aliens from around Vega Prime
    Had ray-guns that shot out green slime!
    Our retreat was first hasty,
    Till we found it was tasty,
    Low-calorie, and flavored like LIME!

    Ms. Oyl was so thin, yet quite stolid.
    (She'd been raised where conditions were squalid.)
    To fill sailors with awe
    She padded her bra --
    In each cup she placed one single OLIVE.

    Not too bad for a Thursday. The closest thing to a problem was wanting to start a prefix for 9 with NON-.

    I like how the solutions matched a verdant rainbow:
    LATE BLOOMER=TEAL blue-green
    FOSTER CARE=FOREST dark green
    FLEA MARKET=LEAF green
    MILE STONE=LIME pastel green
    I LOVE LUCY=OLIVE yellow-green

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  2. Wow, anagrams not definitions...Great. Sometimes you feel like a Jennifer.

    I too thought this was pretty smooth for Thursday, with some which were tough like SANA'A and my Wagner Opera knowledge did not have ERDA anywhere in my brain. Well thanks Marti from a Nutmeg state refugee.

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  3. Morning, all!

    Were there supposed to be circles in today's puzzles? If not, major kudos to Marti for finding all the various shades of green! I had no idea what was going on with the theme, and even after getting to the theme reveal I couldn't find the hidden greens.

    Blew through most of the puzzle regardless of my thematic ignorance. Minor slowdowns at ERDA (who?), ENNEA (obviously related to "ennead", but I've never seen it before) and AMRAM (I honestly don't recall the the name of Moses's father ever being mentioned in the bible, but I'm sure it's there somewhere).

    Other unknowns today (as clued) were ALLOF, PIA and SYRIANS, but those didn't slow me down at all due to the rock-solid perps and my incredible ability to make a guess when faced with SYR_ANS...

    [eaersol]

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  4. Good Morning, Marti and friends. This was a pretty smooth Thursday puzzle. I had most of the starred answers filled, but needed the unifier to see how they all fit together.

    How astute of you, Owen, to notice the rainbow progression of the shades of green.

    My favorite clue was Hard Wear = ARMOR.

    I learned that the US Post Office doesn't actually use the alleged slogan from one of MelissaBee's commentaries several years ago.

    I was thinking of Soda for the POPS instead of DADDY.

    I never watched ER, but knew of MAURA Tierney from News Radio.

    Lots of opera houses are beginning the Ring Cycle in honor of Wagner's 200th birthday. We will be seeing Das Rheingold later this year. I am not familiar with this cycle, so ERDA was my last fill.

    QOD: When traveling with someone, take large doses of patience and tolerance with your morning coffee. ~ Helen Hayes (Oct. 10, 1900 ~ Mar. 17, 1993)

    [alengeul]

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  5. HeartRx: per your request:

    Native Hawai'ians from Maui
    Where the sun shines, and seldom is cloudy,
    They greet with, "Aloha,"
    But it means so much moah;
    It is both Nanu-nanu and Howdy!

    When I saw 'tilak' I thought it meant zebibah, Arabic for raisin, the dark circle of callused skin on the spot where Moslems press their foreheads into the ground during their daily prayers.

    I agree AT NET was an odd fill, one of those times I guess when nothing else could be made to fit.

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  6. Hi Y'all! I didn't understand the theme even after Marti explained it. I had to mull through it again. Duh! I did manage to fill all the squares, but it took some red-letter runs in the SE. I didn't know ENNEA (still don't), KEENE, EUGENE, or MAURA (WAGd MoiRA, MAriA). Interesting, Jennifer. Thanks, Marti.

    Hand up for sheep before Llama. Like Barry I don't remember a mention of Moses' father. I remember Merriam as his sister? Or was that his mother?

    Didn't know ERDA or VEGA either. ELENA? Oh, Supreme Court Justices.

    I did know CAIRN terriers because my daughter has two about whom she is really nuts.

    I never can remember if it is spelled SA'aNA or SANA'A or if the "N" is an "R". I've already forgotten.

    Is it just me or are the capchas getting harder to read?

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  7. Good morning, all.

    Theme? There was a theme? Naturally, I didn't get it until Marti explained it. It was a quick solve, though, wasn't it? And it didn't turn into a DNF!

    Mork and Mindy was a comedy, not sci-fi, imho. Marti, your MAURA comment summed up my feelings, exactly. I had to look up James Farley -- never heard of him.

    KEENE came easily; there just aren't many cities of note in New Hampshire. STEREO would have been a snap if I hadn't read "Music provider" as "muscle provider."

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  8. One of the highlights of my mother's life was traveling by train to Chicago with her first cousin to see Wagner's Ring Cycle as a young woman. This would have been in the early 1930's and was quite an adventure at the time for a musically trained pair of farm/small town girls. She was given a set of books with the opera stories. I was sometimes allowed to read the books when I was about 10 years old. She taught music in our home and later in the classroom when her kids were all in school.

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  9. WBS about the theme--I couldn't wait to get to the blog since I couldn't figure out where the greens were even after solving the whole puzzle.

    I think of players like Serena Williams and Martina Navritilova running up to the net and smashing the ball over the net which is nearly unreturnable--almost always a winner.

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  10. Barry G. - there were no circles.

    OwenKL, I knew you'd come through! Your Olive Oyl limerick was the shining star of the bunch...

    (...still chuckling!!)

    PK, SANA'A has a fascinating history. It was supposedly founded by the son of Noah! The name is pronounced almost like "santa" (by eliding the "t"). So that's how I remember the spelling - I just replace the "t" in santa with an "a" for SANA'A.


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  11. Thank you Jennifer and thank you Marti. And you too Owen !

    I too missed the theme. The puzzle was completed in 29:36, so it's not like I flew through it, but it was fairly steady fill through and through.

    There were a few wags here and there, but they were all supported by the perps.

    I wasn't going to get AMRAM, and I had all but the second A for it. That also completed ELENA, which I stared at to contemplate the "colleague" context. Ah, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayer.

    I've used, more than a few times, CC's "onager guess" at work.

    Had hemi instead of ATMO sphere until NUTMEG came along.

    I would interpret winner as point, not necessarily the game, set or match. The player has moved forward and is playing "at net."

    Anyone see Kanye West and Jimmy Kimmel kiss and make up last night ? Kanye called himself a genius a few times.

    Remember Roberto Duran's "No mas, no mas!" in the sweet science title bout ?

    Business line is ringing. One of these times I'm going to have to answer it. :>) See y'all later.

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  12. My solve--or lack of it, went a lot like Barry G's today. Except I didn't "blow through" it and ended up with errors at MaUra/eUgeNe (replaced with R and L respectively) and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what Rep was an abbreviation for, so WAGged DEC for DEM.

    Of course, anagrams never occurred to me, so came here to see the elusive theme.

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  13. Good morning, folks. Thank you, Jennifer Nutt, for an excellent puzzle. Thank you, Marti, for the fine review.

    My puzzle via cruciverb and the IPad had asterisks.

    This seemed more like a Wednesday level to me. Got through it quite quickly. A few perps and wags.

    I never got the theme, nor looked for it, because I had MIXED GARDEN for 62A. That was one of the last words I corrected to MIXED GREENS which gave me the SE corner and then I quickly finished. Had it done and never looked back.

    Got PATES right of the bat. That really helped with the NW corner.

    Had STEW instead of STIR for a while. I LOVE LUCY fixed that.

    SANAA was a recent puzzle word.

    Did not know CAIRN, but with a couple letters it became obvious.

    Did not know AMRAM for 68A. After four perps I wagged the second A. I think Merriam was Moses' mother as PK said.

    Great limerick OwenKL. Also liked the afterthought with Aloha. Keep on truckin'

    35 degrees this morning when I got up. Heading back to NE Illinois tonight.

    See you tomorrow.

    Abejo

    (hellint)

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  14. Good morning everyone.

    Got all the theme fill but did not realize the anagram nature of the starts. WAGged the SYRIAN pound and AT NET. The ENNEA cross didn't help. But luckily, no whiteouts. Got one of the many spellings of LOOFA correct. I thought Jennifer did a good job today.

    "I never think of the future - - it comes soon enough."
    Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

    Have a great day.

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  15. Good morning everybody!

    Wow, this is the type of puzzle I'm just no good at. I got the unifier, but couldn't figure out how the other clues were linked to "Green". I didn't get my Aha Moment until I came here.

    I liked the clue for 42A: Coffee Shop Feature: AROMA. Reminds me of my morning routine.

    I hope you are all doing well, and have a great day!

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  16. I couldn’t see the GREEN FOREST for the trees at first but loved Jennifer’s puzzle and unraveling the anagrams. Two cells with proper noun crossings are dicey but Marti will show me how I did.
    Musings
    -My LATE BLOOMER friend is now a retired multi millionaire in Baja California
    -OLIVE? My favorite answer to “Knock, knock who’s there?”
    -How ‘bout dat – erdA/cAirn and amrAm/elenA were right. Well pat me on the back and Bob’s your uncle.
    -Nothing deters our mail woman (Gale with the mail) except a 5 foot snow drift thrown up by the city maintainer before I can blow it away
    -My early morning coffee AROMA is not a fav of Joann
    -VEGA is 25 light years away. That means the light you see from that star left there in 1988
    -Would you buy this EMU stuff?
    -One night in the 50’s CBS had people get out there radios and tune to a station that was broadcasting the same sound as the TV so you could experience STEREO when seated between them. High Tech baby!
    -Does this really mean you Live MAS?
    -Peyton Manning is the Bronco’s MEAL TICKET

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  17. Inspired by Owen, I offer this second rate limerick for Marti

    In Maui I bid ALOHA
    To my friend reclined on a sofa
    She seemed so uneasy
    And a little bit queasy
    Is it because it was made by Alcoa?



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  18. I was one letter short of solving a Thursday puzzle. A DNF. Drat!
    I am leaving to ride along with an elderly lady who has a doctor app't in Billings. (210 miles)
    We will stay overnight and drive home tomorrow.
    I should be able to read everyone's posts, tonight.

    Have a good day,
    Montana

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  19. Did the puzzle fairly quickly, made me think before randomly putting in answers. However, I NEVER got the theme with the GREEN anagrams.

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  20. Knew 41 Across-NANU as it probably now qualifies as "crosswordese" but had a hard time accepting "Mork and Mindy" as sci-fi.

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  21. Good Morning:

    This was a fun solve and more of a Wednesday level, IMO. Needed the unifier to grasp the theme but it was then very evident. Thanks, Jennifer, and thanks, Marti, for your cool expo.

    Pia Lindstrom is Ingrid Bergman's daughter, as is Isabella Rossellini. (I wonder if they have any contact with each other.)

    Another beautiful Fall day. Foliage is stunning.

    Owen, take a bow!

    Happy Thursday.

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  22. Greetings!

    Relatively easy. No cheats. Thanks Jennifer, Marti!

    AMRAM, KEENE, filled by perps. Have seen MAURA Tierney in several things. Conked out before deciphering theme.

    Heater not working right. Am freezing. Only 4 hours sleep.

    Cheers!

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  23. Greetings, all! I'm glad you knew the theme, Marti, because I couldn't see it. Thanks.

    I flew through this but hand up for SHEEP before LLAMA. BTW, Miriam (or Myriam) was the sister of Moses.

    Like Hahtoolah, I recalled MAURA Tierney from News Radio. That was a funny show. Since my former ESL class was on Thursday nights, I never saw ER.

    KEENE was a pure WAG assisted by perps.

    I loved the cluing for ARMOR, hard wear.

    Again, Owen, brilliant work.

    Have a fantastic Thursday, everyone!

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  24. Great Thursday puzzle, Jennifer, many thanks! I actually 'got' the theme, with only one little glitch. Got only to SOFT rather than FOREST green and was going to complain that SOFT GREEN isn't really a color. My bad. But what fun, and a helpful write-up, Marti.

    I do have a few questions, though. I still don't get ELENA as a colleague of Ruth and Sonia. And was Moses's father an Egyptian rather than an Israelite? Or was that his step-father or foster-father after the Pharaoh's daughter found him floating in that little basket in the Nile? Or am I misremembering this story altogether and need to go back to Bible school?

    I also don't think of "Mork and Mindy" as sci-fi although I was pretty sure the answer was going to be NANU.

    Montana--210 miles to a doctor's appointment? We need better health care in this country.

    Owen, I think you're heading for a published book of Limericks. Give us the title when the time comes. I'll be one of your first customers.

    Have a great day, everybody!

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  25. AN OK puzzle. I rarely notice that when a theme seems to be less than satisfying it is because it is asking me to solve anagrams. Not understanding that, I nailed the crossword but ended up with four apparently unrelated words. Gotta do better on that.

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  26. Got it finished but didn't figure out the greens until I came here. Thanks Marti.
    Hand up for LAMBS.
    Jochebed was Moses' mother but I didn't know the father's name - thankfully the perps filled it in.
    I will be making Pumpkin pies this weekend for Canadian Thanksgiving.
    I didn't know ENNEA or SANAA (must remember that one!)

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  27. Wow, that George Barany and Friends puzzle is a killer! It's way too high-falutin' for the likes of me. If it had been a tribute to Hank Williams or Buck Owens I might have had a chance.

    As I recall, Miriam was Moses' sister and Yoshebel (or something like that) was his mother. That's the Bible according to Cecil B. DeMille and Charlatan Heston.

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  28. I found this one enjoyable but harder than expected. I had trouble in various places already covered by others.

    Misty, Elana Kagan is another female Supreme Court justice.

    Agreed. Mork and Mindy was definitely not science fiction. Funny though.

    Not that many points are won at the net these days. It used to be that players like Pete Sampras and Martina would serve and get to the net as soon as possible. Today's players seem content to stand near the baseline and blast away until somebody makes a mistake. Much less interesting I think. Doubles is more fun to watch for me because of the action at the net.

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  29. Good day everyone.

    Late to the dance today so any comments I had in mind have been covered already.

    Could not figure out for the life of me what the theme clues had to do with MIXED GREENS. Thanks for clearing it up Marti. Even so, I got it solved without too much effort.

    Maura Tierney was married to the son of one of my oldest friends. Never met the lady, never will now. They're divorced.

    Have an enjoyable day.

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  30. -Me too, Otto. I got about 90% of Joe Green’s puzzle but enjoyed looking up some of the answers and, unlike the anon from Sourgrapeville, learning new “stuff”. If the theme had been 60’s music or space flight…
    -Spoiler alert if you are going to do the puzzle CC linked
    -Now I know RIGOLETTO was a hunchback, censors had to move an opera to Boston of all places (banned in Boston?), DON CARLOS really dug his step-mother, etc.
    -Another Joe Green/Giuseppe Verdi device. A sports talk radio show I listen to calls the Washington Redskin receiver Pierre Garçon, Pete Waiter.
    -I agree Bill, tennis matches rife with service aces and baseline play are as boring as 17 strikeout baseball games.
    -Off to Lincoln to babysit young grandkids while mom does P/T conferences and then to watch oldest grandchild play bad volleyball at Lincoln High.

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  31. Misty, Amram was an Israelite, married to Moses' mother Jochebed. I am not a biblical scholar, but the reason Moses was drifting in a boat is because the Pharoah had ordered all Israelite male children to be killed by drowning them in the Nile. Moses' mother hid him as long as she could, then set him adrift in the boat.

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  32. Hello everybody. Happy Double-Ten Day (雙十節)! And happy birthday, Mr. Green! (I wonder what Joe Six-pack would be in Italian. Giuseppe Sei-pack?)

    Fun theme, though I never could have figured it out were it not for the unifier. Even so, bad as I am at "ANAG"s, I couldn't untangle FOREST from FOSTER until Marti 'splained it. Hi there, fermatprime.

    So Syrian money is the pound, eh? I did not know that.

    I got my BA degree in EUGENE. At that time, way back when, they were filming Getting Straight with Elliot Gould and Candice Bergen.

    Marti, yep, I wanted SHEEP as the wool source.

    Man oh man, that Charles Dickens guy could sure dream up some colorful names! Uriah Heep, Wilkins Micawber, Ebenezer Scrooge, Wackford Squeers ...

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  33. Marti: Wonderful write-up & links (as always!).
    Jennifer: Thank you for a FUN Thursday. Enjoyed your anagram "GREENS".

    Well about 75% of this felt like a Tuesday but I needed my "perps" for the other 25%.

    Don't know ANY Kanye West song (NOR do I care to "learn" ANY). So 1-D was all perps and a "I hope I forget that soon!"

    No faves today ... not a drop-to-drink anywhere ...
    (Well maybe there is HERE at Villa Incognito).
    Cheers!!!

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  34. D-otto and HG, I just spent finished the Barany puzzle. Even though I love the puzzle's subject matter, I still had to really dig for some of the names. Very clever. Oh, and the areas that I had trouble? The sports figures! (33, 40, 47-down area, particularly...)

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  35. Thanks for the write-up Marti - the hint clue helped me with FLEA MARKET when I was getting bogged down.

    I had BRITONS instead of SYRIANS at first so that slowed things up a little too.

    I liked the theme.

    I think it's been said before but "La Brea" means "Tar pit" so the La Brea Tar Pits reads "The tar pit tar pits".

    The same thing for "The Los Angeles Angels" baseball team. You've got either "The The Angels Angels" or "Los Los Angeles Angeles"

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  36. Tinbeni: Au contraire mon frer...

    How about a BELLYFUL of ALOHA ???

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  37. Steve:
    Minor nit: LA BREA means the tar tar pit.

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  38. Hi everyone! I would like to thank C.C. for promoting our puzzle We Mean Joe Green, and to all of you for checking it out. As pointed out by Noam Elkies, who is one of my friends who contributed, our puzzle could have very well fit in to the theme of today's Jennifer Nutt's LAT puzzle. All you need to do is to come up with a snappy phrase that begins with either DRIVE or DIVER! Best wishes, GB

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  39. Steve: The climb between Albuquerque and Santa Fe is the Labajada hill. La Bajada is (so I've been told) local Spanish for The Hill, taken from the native Pueblo phrase Ba Hada for The Hill. The the the hill hill hill. I'll stick with my automatic ATM machine's personal PIN number.

    Husker Gary: Nice lim, and you did a better job than I did at finding rhymes for ALOHA! Don't quit your day job, but keep on LIMEricking!

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  40. G'Afternoon folks:

    Yet another DNF... I had the thematic reviler, but didn't get the anagrams... Doh!

    Lambs for LLAMA, Faith at FORTE and iTunes for STEREO. Perps fixed that, but nothing was going to shake SYRIANS out of my had for pound spenders (ounce of prevention is all I could think of after Britts went away as an option).

    Oh well. Thanks Marti for the write up and Jennifer for the lunchtime diversion.

    Owen - keep up the good work!

    Cheers, -T

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  41. HG, I must have missed your limerick the first time around. I'm just shaking my head and chuckling...

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  42. Barry G.

    The biblical reference to the fact that AMRAM was MOSES' father is Exodus 6:20. According to the web site I consulted it seems to be the same reference in the Torah.

    A slightly religous joke:

    There was a bar accross for a college campus. With parents weekend coming the Bar put up a sign:

    BRING YOUR PARENTS AND WE WILL PRETEND TO NOT KNOW YOU.

    Not to be out done, the college's Chaplain put up this sign:

    BRING YOUR PARENTS AND WE WILL PRETEND TO KNOW YOU.

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  43. If you go back and look at Marti's image associated with 46A, Vega, a bright star in the constellation Lyra, you'll see a little circle at the bottom of the constellation. That's the well-known "Smoke Ring Nebula," a faint leftover from a star exploding. Here's a photo of the way it looks in a good-quality backyard telescope.
    The Ring Nebula

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  44. BillG:
    A while ago I read Sunday's comments after doing the puzzle and saw your message. I was in the midst of a 5K walk while you all were posting.

    But it reminded me I haven't watched Sunday Morning. I'll do that right now! Thanks.

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  45. Afternoon All,
    Wow! This was a speed run for me today. What I didn't know (Erda & Amram for example) were quickly filled in by perps.
    Keene was a definite gimmie. We're going there next weekend for a parent open house and their annual pumpkin fest. Heck, we may even visit Nicole :-).

    @john28man, Funny! I'll look for a sign like that when I'm there at the ba..the chapel. That's it, the chapel.

    @OwenKL, Yest. Thanks for the input. I must have typed ctrl 0 when I was trying to link something here. It only affected the comment section yesterday but messed up everything this AM. Back to normal now.

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  46. Wow, that George Barany and Friends puzzle was interesting! After working it I've been traipsing all around Wikipedia and the internet following my nose (like a Cairn terrier) where it led me, fascinated with reading about topics ranging from Joe Greene, thru Arturo Toscanini and Ruggero Leoncavallo, to censors and the assassination of King Gustav III of Sweden. Quite an informative journey.

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  47. Jayce you state exactly why I love and hate the internet.

    Cairn terriers can be very bitey dogs.

    Toto where are you?

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  48. Thanks Bill G for reminding me of M57 in Lyra. I was having a terrible time trying to find anything to link today.

    Interesting trivia: The Earth, & the entire Solar System is moving in the direction of the star Vega.

    Whew! Thank you Bill, all I had was that the only usable anagram of "mixed greens" was "dig sex re men," & I knew that wouldn't fly on the Blog...

    & Musically, all I had was Shades of Green by The Cliftons, but I am sure the video will offend somebody.

    Manac, just in case you accidentally hit something on the keyboard again, maybe this Table of Keyboard Shortcuts will help you backtrack.

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  49. Bill G. and Marti--many thanks for answering my questions. That's why I love the Corner--I can leave a puzzle understanding everything in it, thanks to you guys.

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  50. Exodus6:20 says AMRAM married his father's sister Jocabed. Their children were Aaron and Moses. Miriam was mentioned as the sister in Exodus 15:20. Egyptian princess, who later became Queen Hatsheput, adopted him and named him Moses meaning "drew him out." Pharoah was probably ThutmoseIII. Pharoah during the plague was likely AmunhotepII. Hope this info helps.

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  51. CED, I thought your shortcut link was a joke at first because the wiki article came up almost microscopic.
    I'll let my guru look at it this weekend ( Dang! There go all my Sofia Vergara pics again.)

    What do you mean nothing to link tonite? Ever see Animal House ?

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  52. OMG I love tear-jerking music! I've been on a 2-hour weeping jag, crying unabashedly to Tschaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet Fantasy Overture, Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings, and Albinoni's Adagio, which all started with Verdi's "Va, pensiero" song from Nabucco. Man oh man, I'm such a sucker for stuff like that.

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  53. Lucina, I don't know if I am up to the responsibility of reminding you to watch TV... :>)

    Jayce, I love your music choices tonight. Since I love classical guitar music, I hunted around and found these.

    Albinoni

    Pachelbel

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  54. CED, Manac, Bill G. excellent musical interludes!!

    I will be at a house closing tomorrow morning, but I hope you all enjoy the daily puzzle - I'm sure Lemony will do it justice, and I'll check in tomorrow afternoon!!

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  55. CED who doesn't love the Cliftons and playing cards?

    Marti, I can't wait

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  56. Happy Thursday everybody!

    Took almost all lunch hour, but finally got the last letter (the cAirn / erdA crossing) to fall in mid-grid….

    WAGS that worked were ENNEA, SANAA, ALL OF, AMRAM, and KEENE….

    ASSERT before AFFIRM, BELLYS UP before BELLYFUL, SHEEP before LLAMA, HEMI before ATMO, and CEO before CFO….

    Favorite clue, like most here was Hard wear?....

    Kept thinking of the Pointer Sisters when I first saw Ruth….

    LUXOR, of course, was a gimme, and it almost crossed with VEGAs….

    Hands up for considering Mork And Mindy as sci-fi to be a bit of a stretch – I think of it as more of a fish-out-of-water comedy….

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  57. How is a story about an alien who comes from a planet far away where procreation is by egg with adult birth not science fiction? Certainly not fact.

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  58. Name one sitcom rooted in fact. I dare you.

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  59. All In The Family might be believable.

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  60. It is the interplanetary aspect that makes it sci fi. I was referring to the science not being factual.

    There are married couples with weird relationships and odd children like Modern Family.

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  61. It is all "believable" because we suspend disbelief, not my thought but an old one. Good night. Garry, Norman

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  62. Garry, are you calling the Korean War fiction...?

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  63. Vegas Doc: Absolutley not! Just the depiction that surgeons can drink multiple martinis before surgery is not fact. I LOVE all sitcoms but knowingly realize that ALL have inheritant assumptions.

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  64. Hey all!

    I'm taking a break from my work and started doing Tuesday's NYT. For folks that hate the x-ref clues (last week), you would hate this - it's self-ref (e.g. 1a With 1-Across, toy train; 1d With 1-Down and 1-Down lively Latin dance). Whew!

    Vegas Doc - I noticed VEGA / LUXOR proximity too and laughed.

    So, tomorrow is a Marti pzl? Sweet!

    And, breaks over. Back to work.

    Cheers, -T

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  65. Bill G:
    LOL! Now that I've seen Sunday Morning, I love it and wouldn't want to miss it. Although it's recorded, I do forget to watch it. I know you wouldn't want me to miss it either.

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